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Switch shows at random wrong position.

Postby Buddace » 18.09.2012, 15:47

Another problem during exhibition.
Some time random switch show bad position: turnout. But real position is right: straight.
I check in all rocview client and all show same bad position.
I don't have rocrail trace of this :( any idea ? I think too hard....
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Postby rjversluis » 18.09.2012, 15:59

Hi Nuccio,

1) Write in the subject in short what the problem is. (I changed it now 4u.)
2) Provide the XML definition of the switch.
3) The switch could have the same address as another switch in this modular setup.
4) Scale images to 800px width before attaching them.
Last edited by rjversluis on 18.09.2012, 16:08, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby rjversluis » 18.09.2012, 16:07

BTW: Why did you wanted 16 aspects for signals!? The signals in your setup do not look like they can handle them...
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Postby Buddace » 18.09.2012, 16:11

rjversluis wrote:BTW: Why did you wanted 16 aspects for signals!? The signals in your setup do not look like they can handle them...

This time I don't used 16 aspect signal not enough time to set signal for this exhibition in rocrail plan and decoder.
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Postby Buddace » 18.09.2012, 18:51

Full layout are enough ? Screenshot module is bss.xml
This is real layout at end of exhibition
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Postby rjversluis » 18.09.2012, 21:02

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20120918.220118.419 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_A_2 has an already used address 5 by S_BSS_LINEA_A_1
20120918.220118.419 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_A_3 has an already used address 5 by S_BSS_LINEA_A_1
20120918.220118.419 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_B_2 has an already used address 1 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_1
20120918.220118.420 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_B_3 has an already used address 1 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_1
20120918.220118.420 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor TSG_Sensor_Linea1 has an already used address 70 by TSG_Sensor_11
20120918.220118.420 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor TSG_Sensor_19 has no address set
20120918.220118.421 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_RCF_LINEA0_EST has no address set
20120918.220118.421 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor SNP_SENS_13 has an already used address 108 by SNP_SENS_12
20120918.220118.421 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_CLS_BLK_01 has an already used address 120 by SNP_SENS_20
20120918.220118.422 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_CLS_BLK_LINEA_BEFORE_B has no address set
20120918.220118.422 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_CLS_BLK_LINEA_B0 has no address set
20120918.220118.422 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor MIS_Sensor_11 has an already used address 157 by S_RCF_LINEA0_OVEST
20120918.220118.422 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_A_5 has an already used address 10 by S_CLS_BLK_LINEA_BEFORE
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_A_4 has an already used address 142 by S_RCF_4C
20120918.220118.423 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_B_4 has no address set
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_BSS_LINEA_B_6 has an already used address 47 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_5
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20100110232331140 has an already used address 47 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_5
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20100110232333453 has an already used address 42 by LSC_SENS_01
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20100110232335375 has an already used address 44 by SNP_SENS_01
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20100110232342703 has an already used address 50 by S_BSS_B
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20100116174503750 has an already used address 40 by S_BSS_LINEA_A_6
20120918.220118.423 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20100116184154125 has an already used address 58 by S_CLS_BLK_LINEA
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20100617000345484 has an already used address 90 by S_BSS_A
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor fb20110524235529281 has an already used address 9 by TSG_Sensor_Linea2
20120918.220118.424 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor fb20110614212954296 has no address set
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor TSG_Sensor_Linea6 has an already used address 47 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_5
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor TSG_Sensor_Linea5 has an already used address 47 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_5
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor TSG_Sensor_Linea4 has an already used address 43 by fb20100110232326546
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor TSG_Sensor_Linea3 has an already used address 47 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_5
20120918.220118.424 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_EST_1 has no address set
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_EST_2 has an already used address 10 by S_CLS_BLK_LINEA_BEFORE
20120918.220118.424 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_EST_3 has an already used address 49 by fb20100110232340312
20120918.220118.424 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_EST_4 has no address set
20120918.220118.424 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_EST_5 has no address set
20120918.220118.424 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_OVEST_1 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_OVEST_2 has an already used address 90 by S_BSS_A
20120918.220118.425 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_OVEST_3 has an already used address 90 by S_BSS_A
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_OVEST_4 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor S_RCF_LINEA_OVEST_5 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor ple_sen1 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor ple_sen2 has an already used address 44 by SNP_SENS_01
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor ple_sen3 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor CDL_SENS_02 has an already used address 45 by fb20100110232328109
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Ovest_5 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Ovest_4 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Ovest_1 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Sud_5 has no address set
20120918.220118.425 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Sud_4 has no address set
20120918.220118.426 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Sud_2 has an already used address 56 by fb20100116184149671
20120918.220118.426 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Sud_1 has no address set
20120918.220118.426 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Est_1 has no address set
20120918.220118.426 r9999E main     OModel   0413 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Est_2 has an already used address 47 by S_BSS_LINEA_B_5
20120918.220118.426 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Est_4 has no address set
20120918.220118.426 r9999W main     OModel   0405 sensor MIS_Sensor_Linea_Est_5 has no address set
20120918.220118.430 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_RCF_11 has an already used address 0-182 by SW_RCF_10
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch SNP_SW_14 has no address set
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch SNP_SW_15 has no address set
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch SNP_SW_16 has no address set
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch SNP_SW_17 has no address set
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch SNP_SW_18 has no address set
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch SNP_SW_19 has no address set
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_CLS_02_01 has an already used address 0-69 by SW_CLS_01_02
20120918.220118.432 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_CLS_04_03 has an already used address 0-70 by SW_CLS_03_04
20120918.220118.432 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_CLS_06_05 has an already used address 0-71 by SW_CLS_05_06
20120918.220118.432 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch LSC_SW_03 has no address set
20120918.220118.432 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch LSC_SW_04 has no address set
20120918.220118.432 r9999W main     OModel   0425 switch LSC_SW_02 has no address set
20120918.220118.442 r9999W main     OModel   0583 ------------------------------------------------------------
20120918.220118.443 r9999W main     OModel   0584  ***** This plan is not healthy! *****
20120918.220118.443 r9999W main     OModel   0585  One or more double ID's and or overlapping symbols are found.
20120918.220118.443 r9999W main     OModel   0586  Check the trace and correct the exceptions before using it.
20120918.220118.443 r9999W main     OModel   0587 ------------------------------------------------------------
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Postby Buddace » 18.09.2012, 21:20

Trace are the last of the day during the exhibition not during the problem.
But, there are zero address because some switch are without decoder and some feedback are not placed. About different feedback with same address I used like monitor for special virtual modules linea.xml
I used this setup until now without problem...
Switch address are not double....and is first time it happen
The only doubt about trace is about double ID.... I check and don't find any double ID and don't explain message.

Zip trace file is about another problem ...last but for another topic :D
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Postby rjversluis » 18.09.2012, 21:31

It only compares the first address of switch objects, but it should compare them both. Event outputs and signals should be included in this check...

No double used addresses?
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20120918.220118.430 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_RCF_11 has an already used address 0-182 by SW_RCF_10
20120918.220118.431 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_CLS_02_01 has an already used address 0-69 by SW_CLS_01_02
20120918.220118.432 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_CLS_04_03 has an already used address 0-70 by SW_CLS_03_04
20120918.220118.432 r9999W main     OModel   0433 switch SW_CLS_06_05 has an already used address 0-71 by SW_CLS_05_06
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Postby Buddace » 18.09.2012, 21:53

20120918.220118.430 r9999W main OModel 0433 switch SW_RCF_11 has an already used address 0-182 by SW_RCF_10

SW_RCF_11 and SW_RCF_10 have same address because physically are same motor. How can move both without same address ?


SW_CLS_xx are set like single gate switch. Output port are different.

Switch with problem about attached screen shot have ID: SW_BSS_1 and address 1...not double.
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Postby Buddace » 20.09.2012, 21:53

Rob during Intellibox switch test I replicate problem, look the log:
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22.49.12.20 [RX] - B0 00 30 7F  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.70 [RX] - B0 0A 30 75  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.71 [RX] - B0 1C 00 53  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.73 [RX] - B0 1D 20 72  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.75 [RX] - B0 1C 20 73  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.75 [RX] - B0 00 00 4F  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.76 [RX] - B0 1C 10 43  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.78 [RX] - B0 0E 0E 4F  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.79 [RX] - B0 1F 20 70  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.81 [RX] - B0 1E 20 71  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.82 [RX] - B0 1E 00 51  OPC_SW_REQ

22.49.14.84 [RX] - B0 1E 10 41  OPC_SW_REQ


This is switch command to set stright :
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22.49.12.20 [RX] - B0 00 30 7F  OPC_SW_REQ


To set turnout need:
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B0 00 10 5F

Thi is not present in log!

Test conditions: two locobufffer without Intellibox. First for Rocrail , second for log
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Postby Buddace » 21.09.2012, 08:16

I think is bad loconet echo decoding by rocrail. This night I will try without echo e try to find packet bud decoded.
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Postby Buddace » 21.09.2012, 19:50

Found problem:
For rocrail this packet: B0 00 00 4F and B0 00 10 4F are same!.
If switch have address 1 packet : B0 00 30 7F set straight but both B0 00 00 4F or B0 00 10 4F set it turnout.
Test conditions: two locobuffer.
How reproduce:
-set SW_BSS_1 straight via mouse/rocview
-send via loconet "B0 00 30 7F" SW_BSS_1 will be set turnout (right!) in rocview

-set SW_BSS_1 straight via mouse/rocview
-send via loconet "B0 00 00 4F" SW_BSS_1 will be set turnout (wrong!) rocview

I think this topic need move to loconet area.
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Postby rjversluis » 22.09.2012, 06:39

Hi Nuccio,

B0 00 30 7F -> straight coil activated for address 0
B0 00 00 7F -> turnout coil deactivated for address 0

Do you have a fitting rocrail.*.trc file?
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Postby Buddace » 22.09.2012, 10:51

Already correct? I see email "string fix" .
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Postby rjversluis » 22.09.2012, 10:54

I did not make any correction for this because I do not see the problem with this LocoNet OPC!?
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