[Temporarily solved!] Where is the Bidib-menu?

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Post by rjversluis » 20.04.2011, 10:59

Hi,

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Wichtiger Hinweis: Eine Übertragung der Lok-Nummern nach dem RailCom-Verfahren zur Zentrale oder zum PC ist nur mit dem LocoNet-Bus (LocoNet-Interface) oder über die USB-Schnittstelle möglich.
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As I wrote before: xPressNet does not support RailCom.
You need a LocoBuffer to use this device for getting the address information from the GBM. LocoNet supports BiDi for many years.

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Post by RainerK » 20.04.2011, 11:31

Hi Peter,
like an "busy detector" for some blocks (Sorry, I don't know the word for Gleisbesetztmelder!).
In english (special USA) forums or websites You find often BOD = block occupancy detector for that.

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Post by 73funki » 20.04.2011, 11:55

@Rainer: Thanks for BOD!

@Rob: Perhaps a seperate bus like the following is possible?

Blücher-GBM16XN -> Loconet-Interface für GBM16XM (Blücher) - RC-Link USB from Tams.

It's very expensive, about 240,-€ Uiuiui..... :roll: Let's see....

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Post by rjversluis » 20.04.2011, 14:52

Hi Peter,

I never had a GBM16XN to test with Rocrail and LocoNet.

RC-Link and GBM16XN is twice the same result; RC-Link or GBM16XN.

Before buying a GBM16XN you should ask Blücher if he can send a test version to the Rocrail Project.

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Post by ste111 » 20.04.2011, 19:13

Hello Peter,

Blücher will support BiDiB also (http://www.bidib.org/vendors.html).
You could use the Blücher BOD with the loconet interface and a DIY loconet-PC interface or build the OpenDCC CS and the GBM16 (http://www.opendcc.de/s88/gbm_bidi/gbm_bidi.html).

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Post by 73funki » 20.04.2011, 19:29

Good evening Guis!

Rob, I will contact Blücher perhaps tomorrow and try to explain them, what's on with rocrail and railcom....let's see...

Stephan, you are really working with it? It's not all to have the BOD and the loconet-converter? I will have a look at the dibib-sites again!

Thank you so much!

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Post by 73funki » 21.04.2011, 12:25

Hallo!

I'm very confused now about railcom, loconet, bidib now!
I had a talk with Mr. Blücher sen. some minutes ago and he told me that his newest BOD (GBM) is not bidib ready :? he told about a meeting about bidi and more in berlin next time.....

Let's take a cup of coffee or tea and wait...wait...wait.....

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Post by opendcc » 19.05.2011, 21:47

73funki wrote:Let's take a cup of coffee or tea and wait...wait...wait.....
Hello,

I'm one of the inventors of BiDiB. To give some clarification:
:arrow: railcom is one way (not the only one) to get data back from the loco to command station and/or pc. BiDiB is independant from railcom.
:arrow: BiDiB is a hardware/software protocol suitable for the transport of all this upcoming new data. In addition, this protocol offers for the first time in the model railway history a secured transport of occupancy data. Security and reliability is a major request on larger layouts. BiDiB is open to all and not restricted to one vendor. BiDiB was designed with the requirements of layouts in mind - built out of practice.
:arrow: BiDiB was presented to a group of manufacturers in Berlin and was considered as a candidate for a new standard bus. Of course, a lot of implementation work is still to be done and BiDiB devices are currently not available of the shelf (or GA, as Rob said)
:arrow: There are two BODs commercially available: one is Blücher GBM, the other is RC-Link. Both have committed to convert the host interface to BiDiB, but again, this takes time and needs resources.
:arrow: My GBM16 (http://www.opendcc.de) is the first test implementation of BiDiB - up to now, the flat model is up an running. The hierarchical model is under development.

br Wolfgang

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Post by 73funki » 20.05.2011, 12:48

Hi Wolfgang!

Back from the docters and nurses :( there is a clear description of Bidi and railcom. I'm not glad about it, because I'm looking for a RC-Link + detector, not willing to work according your description....what a pity!

Also the approaching Lenz Version 4 will not help because of railcom is not Bidib.....

What to do? Wait, right?!?

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