MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

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MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby stef1234 » 20.11.2014, 12:02

Bonjour,

Je suis débutant et je me suis équipé de la MS2 avec le CCschnitte et j'utilise Rocrail.
J'ai réussi a faire fonctionner mes trois locos en DCC sur Rocrail ou la MS2 au choix.
Par contre j'ai une loco en MFX et j'ai un problème :
Elle est bien reconnue directement avec la MS2 et fonctionne parfaitement.
Par contre avec Rocrail, je n'arrive pas à là faire tourner correctement car il y a conflit avec la MS2 et le décodeur de la loco fait n'importe quoi.
Si je la supprime sur la MS2, là elle fonctionne bien sur Rocrail mais je ne peux pas la faire tourner à la fois sur Rocrail et la MS2
Dans Rocrail la loco est programmée sur 'serverdefined' protocole :1 et c'est tout.
Y at-il une solution pour remédier à ce problème ?
J'espère que vous arriverez à traduire, je fais la même chose de mon côté. :shock:
Merci :)
Marklïn/Trix HO - mfx/dcc - Can Digital Bahn
Locos Trix - Piko - Hornby Acho digitalisées
Win 10 64bits
stef1234
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby eroncelli » 21.11.2014, 20:36

The problem is that you need to enter a specific address for any mfx loco, to get RR control it.
This address is easily retrieved when using a CS2 (loco file can be read with a PC connected to the CS2), but I don't know how to get it with an MS2.
So, the problem is clear, but no solution for the moment, by me.
HO Maerklin, CS2+MS2, PC with Win10, Android phone, electronics by IEK, decoder by Maerklin-ESU-TAMS
".. and let your dog enjoy Rocrail"
eroncelli
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby smitt48 » 21.11.2014, 21:14

Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.3) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
In build phase
smitt48
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby eroncelli » 21.11.2014, 21:36

The Wiki reports an old method: loco file can be directly read with a PC.
But this works only with a CS2, not with an MS2: that's the problem :(
HO Maerklin, CS2+MS2, PC with Win10, Android phone, electronics by IEK, decoder by Maerklin-ESU-TAMS
".. and let your dog enjoy Rocrail"
eroncelli
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby stef1234 » 22.11.2014, 08:29

Merci pour vos réponse,

je ne peux pas lire les infos de la loco MFX car je n'ai pas de CS2 seulement une MS2
Il faut que je trouve quelqu'un dans ma région avec une CS2.

Merci à vous :)
Marklïn/Trix HO - mfx/dcc - Can Digital Bahn
Locos Trix - Piko - Hornby Acho digitalisées
Win 10 64bits
stef1234
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby woodyboy » 22.11.2014, 16:38

Hi there,

For this question I am trying to implement the MFX discovery at the moment . No hazzle with sids, the goal is that locs will be generated automatic. A first try is tested and is currently in the branch. I you select discover and bind in the controller dialog and have the Gleisbox and MS2 connected you have a good chance it will work. Otherwise it is depending how transparant the CC schitte is for the CAN protocol.

Otherwise try it the next week. I am still working on this to improve but, at least for me, it is fairly complex to program and test all possible configurations for GB only , GB&MS2 and CS2.
Regards,

Bert

Equipment: Roco WLANMaus, MS2, Gleisbox 2x(separated switch & rollingstock). Ubuntu 16. Edits booster. Arduino: S88 CANbus interface & Ethernet-CANbus gateway
woodyboy
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby stef1234 » 22.11.2014, 17:32

J'ai du mal à comprendre :
'discover and bind in the controller dialog' ??

Le matériel que j'utilise est le suivant :
-MS2 et Gleisbox
-module CCschnitte de CAN-DIGITAL-BAHN
-modules de CAN-DIGITAL-BAHN (Startpunkt, Weichenchef...)
-Rocrail comme logiciel
C'est tout
Désolé mais je suis novice alors il faut m'expliquer simplement :wink:
merci :)
Marklïn/Trix HO - mfx/dcc - Can Digital Bahn
Locos Trix - Piko - Hornby Acho digitalisées
Win 10 64bits
stef1234
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby woodyboy » 22.11.2014, 17:58

controller dialog.png
It is the dialog where you configured the CC-schnitte
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Regards,

Bert

Equipment: Roco WLANMaus, MS2, Gleisbox 2x(separated switch & rollingstock). Ubuntu 16. Edits booster. Arduino: S88 CANbus interface & Ethernet-CANbus gateway
woodyboy
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby smitt48 » 22.11.2014, 18:10

Hi,

Is there really that much difference between MS2 and CS2? In our command station section they seem to be together, should they be separated? At least I inferred by the name MCS2 that this was MS2 and CS2 information. Now I read that MS2 does not connect to a PC directly (needs Gleisbox), but CS2 does. I assume a user has to hook them up to Rocrail quite differently.

Mcs2.PNG

Thanks,
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Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.3) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
In build phase
smitt48
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby eroncelli » 22.11.2014, 18:35

Sure MS2 and CS2 are quite different in the way they communicate.
CS2 has a network adapter (thus a connection to a PC is possible, either directly or through a network/switch), while MS2 has only a CAN-BUS connection (and you need some other device, like Schnittstelle or a dedicated Arduino board etc to connect to a network).

Tomorrow, I'll try the updated version with my CS2 and test the new "function" prepared by Woodyboy
HO Maerklin, CS2+MS2, PC with Win10, Android phone, electronics by IEK, decoder by Maerklin-ESU-TAMS
".. and let your dog enjoy Rocrail"
eroncelli
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby stef1234 » 22.11.2014, 19:28

j'ai essayé en cochant les deux paramètres 'Bind et Discover' mais ça ne change rien.
Moi, j'utile la connexion 'serial' et pas 'Internet', le CCschnitte est relié en USB au PC.
Marklïn/Trix HO - mfx/dcc - Can Digital Bahn
Locos Trix - Piko - Hornby Acho digitalisées
Win 10 64bits
stef1234
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby stef1234 » 18.05.2015, 21:51

Bonjour,

depuis quelques temps, j'ai un message d'erreur sur la fenêtre serveur de Rocrail :
Invalid ping packet received for type MS2 UID 0x4D5347CF

l'alimentation est coupée :
Power off, freeze clock

mais tout fonctionne normalement
Que se passe t-il ?
Je joins le fichier .trc

Merci
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Marklïn/Trix HO - mfx/dcc - Can Digital Bahn
Locos Trix - Piko - Hornby Acho digitalisées
Win 10 64bits
stef1234
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby smitt48 » 19.05.2015, 00:02

Hi Rob or Woodyboy,

Can you help? Stef1234 has this issue.

20150518.222637.249 r9999I mcs2read OMCS2 0997 Gleisbox firmware version = 1.39
20150518.222637.280 r9999W mcs2read OMCS2 1042 Invalid Ping packet received for type MS2 UID 0x4D5347CF

Thanks Tom
Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.3) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
In build phase
smitt48
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby woodyboy » 19.05.2015, 08:34

Hi Tom,

This is an error that the can id mismatches with the used can Id of the device.. Operation is possible without limited functionality. But is not conform specifications and integrity of error free transmission is without warranty.
Regards,

Bert

Equipment: Roco WLANMaus, MS2, Gleisbox 2x(separated switch & rollingstock). Ubuntu 16. Edits booster. Arduino: S88 CANbus interface & Ethernet-CANbus gateway
woodyboy
 

Re: MS2 - Rocrail - CCschnitte

Postby smitt48 » 19.05.2015, 09:23

Hi Bert,

Thanks.
What does he need to do to fix it?

Greetings Tom
Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.3) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
In build phase
smitt48
 

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