The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block (Closed)

The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block (Closed)

Postby andrey » 06.05.2018, 16:38

Hello, Rob.
There is a problem. The "Tour" BR118 does not start because there is the nearest "Block" number 3 in the "Schedule", which is occupied by Reihe 204 at the time of the "Tour" start. If the block number 3 is free, then the "Tour" BR118 is activated. Please check
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby rjversluis » 08.05.2018, 13:11

Hi Andrey,

a fitting trace with automatic level is missing.

The current implementation is:
- Use Tour.
- If it cannot start with the first schedule in the tour, the next will be checked.
- If it is not possible to start, the Tour is canceled.
Best Regards, Rob.
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby smitt48 » 08.05.2018, 16:38

Hi Rob,

If it is not possible to start, the Tour is canceled.

Seriously!? Why not in "attempting to go" mode?
You can start your loc and when possible it takes off.

Tom
Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.4) - Win10
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby andrey » 08.05.2018, 17:58

As I think, it is impossible to solve the problem by software. I want to try this option: Time of the first start in the "Schedule" for the "Tour" BR118 - 0.00. Start this tour immediately as it will release Block # 3 Reihe204. Not very convenient, but differently, as I understand it - neither
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby smitt48 » 09.05.2018, 10:59

Hi Rob,

Rob wrote:
If it is not possible to start, the Tour is canceled.


Why the discrepancy with schedules? The schedule stays when the next block is occupied.
I always assumed that a tour was a collection of schedules.

Tom
Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.4) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
In build phase
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby rjversluis » 09.05.2018, 11:05

Hi Tom,
smitt48 wrote:
Rob wrote:
If it is not possible to start, the Tour is canceled.


Why the discrepancy with schedules? The schedule stays when the next block is occupied.
I always assumed that a tour was a collection of schedules.

thats correct, but the tour tries to start schedule 1, if it fails it will try the next one.
If no schedule can be started the tour will be terminated.
This is the way it is implemented as wished by users.

In fact the tour is obsolete because a train can lookup a fitting schedule if idle.
Best Regards, Rob.
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby rvooyen » 14.05.2018, 22:50

I would agree with the need that the tour should try to start its first schedule only, as long as auto mode is on or stopped. We assume that the tour has been started for a reason and since it is not a timed tour it sbould start once its route is free.
If you have three trains coming from a fiddleyard/shadow station, you may want to start all three with tours so they will all eventually start once their routes have cleared.

Robert
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Building Rhineland2. 3 levels. CS=IB1-Loconet+HSI-s88, 70 blocks, 160 sensors, 4 boosters. M&K 3rail.
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby rjversluis » 15.05.2018, 11:13

Hi,

test with 13.969+
Best Regards, Rob.
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby smitt48 » 15.05.2018, 19:22

Hi Rob,

I tested, but the train does not start.
1. BR118 in bk10 (Bottom right)
2. bk3 has a loc
3. select tour BR118, it shows in destination and it does not go away as before.
4. remove loc in bk3.
5, tour stays but BE118 does not start.

Tom
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Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.4) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby rvooyen » 15.05.2018, 20:38

Tom
Wait for 11969.

I will also test then.

Robert
Robert van Ooijen.
Building Rhineland2. 3 levels. CS=IB1-Loconet+HSI-s88, 70 blocks, 160 sensors, 4 boosters. M&K 3rail.
Goal: Scheduled Pass. trains, "OPS" with car cards etc.. Using andRoc and Rocweb/xs throttles.
Rocrail on WinXP.
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby smitt48 » 15.05.2018, 20:39

Hi Robert,

I have 13969!

Tom
Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.4) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
In build phase
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby smitt48 » 15.05.2018, 20:58

Hi Rob,

In my own plan it worked!

Sorry, Tom
Kind regards,
Tom Smit
Kralendijk, Bonaire - Dutch Caribbean

Märklin M & K-rails with ECoS2 (4.2.4) - Win10
RoSoft: S88n & WDD switch & SDD signal decoders
Display: Tri-ang from 1950's, Märklin from early 1960's
In build phase
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Re: The "TOUR" does not start when the nearest block is in t

Postby andrey » 16.05.2018, 07:39

Hello, Rob.
I confirm, the problem is solved. On my layout everything works. Rob, you did a good job, so on large mock-ups with a huge number of station paths it is now possible to organize meaningful automatic movement within the boundaries of the station.
P.S. Tom, Robert, thank you for taking part in the discussion of this problem.
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